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Pat Dugan
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 09:01 pm |
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I have a Trojan with a missing top lever spring. In its place someone had just bent some flat spring material that made it work a little. My question is if someone could direct me to somewhere I could get some information on how to put a new one back in. I ordered two from Dixie Gun works (cost with shipping $19.00 for both). I quess at last resort I will open another gun to see how it sits in the reciever.
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PDD
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Hugh Rather
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 09:59 pm |
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See post"Hammeless top lever spring" started by Robert Dillon.Good luck,Hugh.
Last edited on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 02:55 am by Hugh Rather
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David Hamilton
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 10:35 pm |
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| Dewey Vicnair made me on after the dixie spring I bought broke on the tenth opening. He is very good and if you can get your gun to him in central Pa. he can do it. David
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Pat Dugan
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 02:06 am |
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Thanks, Since I am in the property management business somtimes I think I can fix somthings myself and it usuall take a professional to fix the mess I make.
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Ben Yarian
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 02:14 am |
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I am assuming that it is a "v" shaped spring. If it is not then dissregard what I am about to say. I am allso assuming that you have the stock off, since you have seen the spring that was in there. Ok. stock off, look under the top tang. there will be a small hole on the under side of the tang maybee and inch (?) back from the frame. that is where the pin on the top of the "v" spring goes. Moving forward along the under side of the tang, where it meets the frame there is a opening in the frame. This is where the open end of the "V" goes. It slides up inside the opening and engages on the right side the (for lack of a better word) groove on the lower part of the top lever. The left side of the spring just sets against the wall of the opening in the frame. The spring more than likly will need to be sized. The pin on top of the spring may need to be reduced in diameter and length. The vertical dimention and the over all length may need to be reduced all so. It is a matter of patience and time. You will need to compress the spring with a tool to get in into the opening on the frame.. I use a small pair of needle nose vice grips with the teeth ground off and electrical tape wrapped around the ends. As you file the spring down to size you will need to compress it and slide it into place to see how it fits, and bring it out and file some more. Till it finally fits into place. This is how I do it, some one else may have a better way.
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Ed Blake
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 02:49 am |
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| Order the $25 spring from Galazans. I have found the Dixie springs to be too short. Ben's directions are good. If you can take a Parker apart and put it back to together you can fit a top lever spring. It took me about 2 hours and a good 'smith will charge $80 an hour. Galazan's springs are good ones, you won't have to replace it again for another 100 years.
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David Hamilton
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 09:40 pm |
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I have been told that there are two sizes of the V spring that Parker used. The one I got from Dixie was too large for my 1903 gun but even though it was able to be fit by a gun smith (Dewey) it split right down the fold. Dewey said he has had problems with provided springs before and prefers to make his own.
Still I like the idea of being to "do it myself", if only! David
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Pat Dugan
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 04:04 am |
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Since I have bought two, you know I have to try it . With these great instructions I will let you know How it turns out...Thanks so very much.
PDD
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Harry Collins
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 04:26 pm |
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Pat,
I have only used Dixie Gun Works springs. The two sizes are for hammer or hammerless Parkers. The hammer spring is much longer.
I use a Dremel Tool to match the thickness of the original spring as well as the post. This takes less than 10 min. I also use a small set of needel nose vice grips to install the spring. The whole operation takes about a half hour.
The first one I did was more than 20 years ago and I have put tens of thousands of rounds through that old GH.
Harry
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Pat Dugan
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 10:06 pm |
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I took another Parker Vh Serial number 134858 20 Ga. Apart to look at how the spring was set. Well to my suprise there is a cam action that attaches to the lever. So now I see how guns made after 1910 were simplified. The Trojan serial number is 164067 with the 1910 patient date. I can now see how the spring has to be thinned and shortened a little to work. The post on the dixie spring is 3 times as big as it needs to be. Well as EDM says investigation continues.
PDD
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Tom Leshinsky
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 07:05 am |
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| Pat, when you file or grind on the spring do it along the spring and not across it. Polish it to about 400 or 500 grit. Any mark across it is where it will break just like scoring glass. Good luck.
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