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Robert Delk
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 04:23 am |
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| I was just perusing(love that word)the Parker serialization and identification book and noticed that from around 180,000 to 191,000 there seem to be an unusually high number of D grade and above built. Anyone have a guess as to why that was? I can't correlate production year with the numbers so don't know when that was but would guess in the 20's before the "crash'.
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Austin W Hogan
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 04:47 am |
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There are several periods when the Parker order books are missing, and the Parker Stock books were used to establish the Parker Archive. Only guns of D grade and greater were extracted fron the stock book record.
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Robert Delk
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 05:41 am |
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Duh, I should have noticed the big gaps between guns. Thanks for the information.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 01:32 pm |
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| Another reason (missing books notwithstanding) was that the D grade was the highest graded production gun built and put up in inventory; that is, not a special order gun. as were C- and higher grade guns. You will see large orders for such firms as Shapleigh Hardware and E.K. Tryon that contain their fare share of D grade guns, along with P-, G- and lower graded guns. That way Parker Bros. could fill orders promptly, yet not have invested the time and labor required to fit and finish a "fine" gun, which is what they referred to as C grade and above, then have it sit on the rack in the warehouse indefinitely.
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Charlie Price
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 03:03 pm |
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| Austin, you have it "backwards." The sequences of grade 3 and higher guns in the Serialization & Identification book came from Parker Brothers Order Books instead of Stock Books. Our Parker Story venture copied the surviving stock books and built the computer data base from data found in them. These copies were donated to the PGCA and I believe are still used for research letters. Where there were serial number gaps due to missing Stock Books, we borrowed the Order Books from Remington and added higher grade and unusual guns to the database. This database was used to compile statistics in TPS and the whole thing was printed out in the Serialization book. In scanning the Serialization book you will note long sequences of conseciutive numbers which came from Stock Books. Then, sequences where the numbers are not consecutive are from Order Books. I tried to explain all this complication in Chapter XIX of TPS. Sorry it is confusing but it is not a simple. Charlie
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 03:04 pm |
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| To be honest, I don't notice such a large number of graded guns in that period. I do notice columns of serial numbers of V and J gun listed. Can you give us an actual count of graded guns compared to V and J guns? Remember, many numbers are missing and they are probably mostly V and J guns.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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| Charlie explained why high grade guns that are not listed in the stock books are listed in the Serialization Book. A full explanation of how the "PGCA Research Team" and the authors of The Parker Story compiled the information that is now the "PGCA Research Collection". The full story was once told in the Parker Pages. It has been told on this forum more than once. It is time to tell it again. Maybe Austin will reprint the original story in the next issue of Parker Pages.
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